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    My mom is a living hell im 15 she wont teach me how to drive and she always takes my money when i ask for her money she says no. She has anger issues every small thing she takes to the heart even family notices this people way older than me. i love my mom but im ready to out at 17 we just cant get along ready to move our can i?
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  • ccsmod0
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    Hello,
    Thank you for reaching out to us here at the National Runaway Safeline. It sounds like rules at home have become unreasonable for you and you would like to move in with a friend and their family. You questioned if you can legally move out without your mothers consent. We are not legal experts but generally speaking a person is not considered an adult until they are 18. This means that their guardians are legally responsible for them. So the parent is required by law to provide for the youth (food, shelter, school, etc.) If they fail to do so then they can face legal consequences. This also means that the youth cannot live anywhere else without parents’ consent. There are exceptions to this rule but those include getting the court involved such as emancipation or Child Protective Services removing the parent’s rights. If you were to leave home without her permission she does have the right to report you as a runaway to the police. But since you are 17, at this point it is up to police officers discretion if they would peruse looking for you. IF you have more questions about runaway laws in your state it would be best to contact your local non-emergency police.
    Again, thank you for reaching out. We hope this information helps. If you have any follow up questions please give us a call. 1-800-786-2929
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    i am 17 years old will be 18 on september 13th I need out of mu house just too much rule and junk and I wanna move in with my best friend her hubby and there kid in a good apartment in the same town, but my parents wont let me so cam i legally move out without my moms consent? Or if she called the police would I get in trouble

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  • ccsmod9
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    Hello,
    We appreciate you taking the time to contact us! It can be difficult to open up and share your story, and we are more than happy to help you in every way possible.
    We completely understand where your frustration is coming from, and applaud you for handling it responsibly and respectfully. You are taking matters into your own hands, which is a very mature thing to do. Since it does sound like you are wanting to leave home, the next steps would be to figure out where you can legally go. You are a minor, so with a parent’s or legal guardian’s permission, you are free to live elsewhere. If you are comfortable, you might want to reach out to your father either about being able to live with him instead of your mother, or for permission to live elsewhere. Remember that you can give us a call any time at 1-800-786-2929 to further discuss these options or formulate a plan that you are comfortable with.
    We want you to know that you are not alone. We hear you and your voice matters to us. It can be difficult dealing with all these emotions, especially when you are being treated unfairly at home like you described; if these feelings become too much to handle, you can also always call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-8255. Best of luck moving forward, and we hope to hear from you soon!
    Stay strong,
    NRS

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    I'm 16, 17 in September and my home life is honestly terrible. My mother's boyfriend constantly talks ******** to her about me and tells her I don't deserve to do things or get things. I've heard him doing it. He keeps me fairly isolated from her because he's always, always around her and in the rare moments we're alone, he calls her on her phone and talks to her. He talks ******** to me and degrades me to the point where I want to kill myself and while I'm not going to try it. It's a bad headspace to be in. I've told my mom these things and she immediately jumps to his defense and tells me that I need to be nicer to him. I have a boyfriend who turns 17 eleven days before I do, and we've been talking about moving in together. His parents give him permission to leave at 17, and I haven't even mentioned anything of the sort to mine, because they'll shut me down immediately.
    I lived with my dad until August, where they went to court for custody of me and I chose to go with my mother, with the option to move back with him if I wanted to. And I've tried. I faxed the friend of the court a letter like they told me I had to five months ago,and never got any response. My dad finally filed some paperwork and within a month he had a court date with my mother, and got visiting right back after she didn't let me and my sister go to his house for 2 months. Which might not seem like a long time, but when you are constantly bombarded, it's an eternity. I have three younger siblings, a full sister and two half brothers, and all three of them treat me like ******** because they see my parents do it. My sister gets a lot of it too, though. She just turned 15 and has the biggest attitude problem I've ever seen. I'm quite and introverted. I don't talk back, I don't slam doors, I don't stomp or roll my eyes or anything.
    I do not know what else to do. I think I can manage another 6 months like this, but if I have to wait until I'm 18 I'm going to enter adulthood with no money, no job, which I haven't gotten because I have no transportation since we live in the middle of nowhere, and I'll have to give 3/4 of my rent to my mom and her boyfriend for rent AND buy my own food. I don't have a cell phone; they tell me they'll smash any device I bring into their house. I don't know what to do at this point and in openly considering leaving when I'm 17.

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  • ccsmod15
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    Thank you for reaching out to the National Runaway Safeline. It sounds like you’ve been going through such a tough time, but we are here to support you and help you in any way we can. That sounds so hurtful to be treated that way by your dad. That sounds stressful to have your brothers moving out soon.

    We want you to know that no one deserves to be treated that way by your dad, and you should not have to go through that. Just so you’re aware, your dad is not actually able to kick you out of the home. He has a legal obligation to care for you until you are a legal adult. Also, if you haven’t already, you could consider reporting the things you’ve been experiencing. You mentioned that your dad works as the head of discipline at your school, but if you’re able to video or audio record the things your dad has been doing, it may be easier to prove to others what’s been going on. If you want more information about reporting or if you want to file a report, you could call Child Help at 1-800-422-4453 or you could call us at 1-800-RUNAWAY (1-800-786-2929) or chat with us online. Also, if you ever feel that you are in danger, you could call 911 for immediate help.

    You mentioned that you were concerned about being able to stay in school if you leave home. You have a right to receive schooling despite your situation through the McKinney Vento Act. If you have questions about this law, you could contact the National Center for Homeless Education Helpline at 1-800-308-2145.

    It sounds like you were considering leaving home, but that you were concerned about where to go. If you do decide to leave home, it may be helpful to think through a specific plan to make sure you stay safe. You could think about where you would go and how long you would stay away from home. You could consider how you would pay for food, clothing and other necessary supplies. You could also form a plan for how you would stay in school, how you would pay for any transportation, and what you would do if you feel that you’re in danger. If you want to talk through a plan more, you could call us or chat with us online.

    If you haven’t already, you could consider reaching out to a trusted adult, relative, worker/teacher/counselor at your school for help and support. If you haven’t, you could also consider talking to your parents about how you’ve been feeling or having someone else help you talk to them.

    There are also many resources that could help you find a safe place if you’re in need, talk through what’s been going on, or help you with anything else you may need. If you want to talk more about what’s been going on, or if you would like more information about resources, you can call us or chat with us online.

    Again, thank you for contacting us. It sounds like you’ve been going through a really hard time, but you’ve shown a lot of strength by working through these challenges and reaching out for help. If you ever need anything in the future, please feel free to call us or chat with us online. We’re always here to listen and here to help.

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    I’m 16 and I don’t know what to do. I live in Michigan and my dad is an utter psycho. Usually it’s okay but every couple of weeks, like a cycle, he just goes ballistic At the smallest or most insignificant of things. He constantly threatens to kick me or my brothers out of the house if we do something he perceives as disrespecting him or if we don’t like that he constantly screams, breaks things around the house or threatens to beat us up when he is in these moods. I am just tired of it. I can’t do it anymore, especially since both my brothers leave for college next year and I know like clockwork he will continue to have these moods but there will be no one strong enough to combat him if he becomes violent, because it’ll just be me, my mom and my dad at home. Like he has said countless times ‘If you don’t like it leave’ I want to leave this place but I have nowhere to go. And I am also pretty sure if I ever did try to leave they would contact the police in a flash. What can I do to get out of this situation but still attend my school? He also works at my school as head of discipline so things do not look good for me.

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  • ccsmod15
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    Thank you for contacting the National Runaway Safeline. We’re sorry to hear that you’re going through a really difficult time right now. You don’t deserve the abuse that is happening to you.

    If you’d like to talk to someone specifically about the abuse you’re dealing with, Child Help is a great resource. The phone number for their National Child Abuse Hotline is 1-800-422-4453.

    About talking to your mom - have you considered having another adult present when you talk to your mom? A trusted relative, school teacher, coach, or guidance counselor can help you explain to your mom what you’re feeling and why you want to leave.
    If that is not an option, we offer a conference call service at NRS. We can have a three-way phone call with you and your mom and help guide the conversation so it is the most productive it can be.

    It sounds like you have carefully considered what you will do if you run away, but if you’d like to talk more about what that will look like, please feel free to call us.

    If you’d like to call us to talk about your options, our lines are open 24/7. You can reach us at 1-800-Runaway.

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    Hello” I’m 17 years old and every since I was 13 my parents were been abusive only my dad though and my mom would just keep letting Him abuse me so i turned 17 on the tenth of this month and I desided that I want to runway I know where I’m going and everything but how should I tell my mother I’m leaving because I’m unhappy at home and depressed and I just wanna have a free moment with her tellin me I won’t be nothing and that I’ll drop out of school even though when I run away I’ll be going to school and working so pls help me

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  • ccsmod8
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    Hello there –

    Thank you for taking the time out of your day to get into contact with us here at the National Runaway Safeline on our public forum, we are always here to listen and here to help in any way that we can. We do want to say that it must be very hard for you to have to go through all of this. It sounds like a very stressful situation for you at home dealing with all the emotional abuse. Unfortunately that kind of abuse it typically harder to prove so from what we hear, child protective services don’t usually react. Hopefully by supporting you there are other that are reading through this thread that can relate can feel helped as well.

    As you have probably read in other threads, the laws on that specific subject of just leaving home and/or running away vary from state to state. Now we can’t stress enough that we aren’t legal experts, but what generally what typically happens in each state is if you are below the legal age of majority (18 in most states except Alabama and Nebraska [19 or upon marriage], and Mississippi [21]), your parents would be able to make a runaway report in the event that you do run away. Now we have reached out to several police departments over the time and they all say that it doesn’t matter if you’re 17 or close to turning 18 years old, that they will still take a runaway report because you are still considered a minor. In this case, it sounds like you have already talked to the police yourself and has told you that you can leave just that your parents are still reasonable for you. That does fit some other information that we have heard as well, the fact that though a police officer doesn't take a report it doesn't make it legal for you to leave home before you turn 18.

    Only you know when it is time to leave and when it’s not. So if you have already been told by the police that you can leave, then that’s a choice that you are going to have to make on your own using that information.

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    Can I legally move out when Im 17?
    My parents adopted me and two of my sisters back when we were little, but for at lest, the last 5 years its been rough. Its emotionally abusive, mentally abusive. An all i wanna do is walk away from the situation. Im a good kid i dont get introuble. Ive got great grades, i could even graduate early if i wanted. (im a senior) Ive called my local law enforcement, local sheriffs office an they told me that i can move out legally they cant do anything about it, but my parents are still responsible for me. So if i get arrested (which im not planing on it), or something medically wrong happens to me, their still responsible. Ive talked to my parents an tryed to see if we could figure out a solution together for all the fights an else what but they refuse to listen to anything i say. In their eyes their the only ones that matter along with their opinions. Even my friends see the abuse. But as soon as someone comes over to my house my parents make everything seem like everything's OK. But when they leave... An i just want to leave so i can worry about me an my future. But i want to know, is it 100% legal for me to move out without parent consent when i turn 17.

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  • ccsmod9
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    Thank you very much for writing us at the National Runaway Safeline. We’re here to listen, and here to help. We are so sorry to hear that things are difficult for you at home with your mom and stepdad. It is wonderful that you have so many forms of support through your extended family members such as your aunt and grandmother and that you are able to be there for your aunt in need. Have you considered asking your mom whether you could take a break and stay with your relatives? Likewise, it seems like you have a lot on your mind, and it could be helpful to communicate how you feel with your parents. You deserve to feel valued and you do not deserve for your relatives to be talked about around you.

    As you may know, if you were to leave home without your mom’s permission, your parents could file a runaway report. This is because running away at your age is a status offense. Additionally, those who help runaways could be charged with harboring a runaway. At 17, it varies by how your local police department chooses to handle this. The best way to find out is to call them and ask their policy.

    We would love to provide you with more individualized supports and to talk with you more about your situation. Feel free to call us at 1-800-RUNAWAY or 1-800-786-2929, since we are available 24/7 or chat with us. One service that you may want to use is our conference call option. We can help facilitate your conversation with your parents through a three way conference call.

    We hope to hear from you soon,

    NRS

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    So I'm 16 I turn 17 in October I really want to move away from my parents I want to move in with my grandmother and my disabled aunt I already help out with my aunt as a personal assistant but at home I feel unwanted I feel like my mom and step dad are trying to rip me away from my family members that I'm close to they constantly downgrade my grandmother and other family members I'm very unhappy at home I my step dad always down grades me tells me I'm gonna mount to nothing in life and I hate him for it I don't want to be around them any more they stress me out.

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  • ccsmod8
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    Hello there –

    Thank you for taking the time out of your day to get into contact with us here at the National Runaway Safeline on our public forum, we are always here to listen and here to help in any way that we can. We do want to say that it must be very hard for you to have to go through all of this. It sounds like a very stressful situation for you at home. Hopefully by supporting you there are other that are reading through this thread that can relate can feel helped as well.

    As you have probably read in a lot of other threads, the laws on that specific subject of just leaving home and/or running away vary from state to state. Now we aren’t legal experts, but what generally what typically happens in each state is if you are below the legal age of majority (18 in most states except Alabama and Nebraska [19 or upon marriage], and Mississippi [21]), your parents would be able to make a runaway report in the event that you do run away. Since it’s only considered a statues offense and not a crime to run away, the only thing that would happen is that the police will pick you up and bring you back home. Now we have reached out to several police departments over the time and they all say that it doesn’t matter if you’re going to be 17 or close to turning 18 years old, that they will still take a runaway report because you are still considered a minor. This is the case even when you decided to leave the city or state because most reports are entered into the NCIC which is a national database for those reported missing/runaway. It will stay active until you are either found or turn of age.

    Your parents may give you permission to live with another family (ie. your aunt), but without getting an official document from the court they would still be legally responsible for you. Which means that your parents can also take away that permission at any given moment and take you back home to live with them once again. So that can be an option for you if you feel like your parents might respond well to you living someplace else and cool down from the constant fighting. Maybe coming up with a solid plan about what you’re planning on doing, how everything is going to work, and any miscellaneous things could be helpful in them seeing how much work you have put into this plan.

    Hope that this information help and best of luck.
    Last edited by ccsmod8; 08-08-2017, 02:47 PM.

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    I'm 16 turning 17 in January. I'm getting tired of the way I'm getting treated at home. my aunt said I could move in with her but I don't want to get her in trouble. is there anyway I could move in with her while I'm 16 and without parents permission since she's family ?

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